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	<title>Comments on: Real German Cuisine Challenge: Wuerzfleisch mit Pilzen (Pork ragout with mushrooms)</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.amiexpat.com/2009/10/05/real-german-cuisine-challenge-wuerzfleisch-mit-pilzen-pork-ragout-with-mushrooms/comment-page-1/#comment-15354</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris,

sure, taste really is a personal thing - I´ve found many southern dishes to contain too much fat and lard for me to like them - maybe I like it bland? ;-))))) As for Asian cuisine, I prefer Japanese over Thai or Vietnamese - no offense intended.

Bottom line, I guess the recipe is simply &quot;wrong&quot;, or they´ve forgotten something. The trick with the Würzfleisch (&quot;spiced meat&quot;) is that the spices are added to both meat and sauce, and when the two are mixed, the flavors do so, too. The cheese &quot;lid&quot; is to prevent the stuff from becoming cold too fast, and to preserve it in case you want to re-heat the meal. I´ve never eaten this dish without the meat being mixed with sauce, goulash-style.

I cook my northern dishes by heart rather than with recipes, but if you like, next time I make Würzfleisch, I´ll take notes and mail you what I did. Maybe that´ll taste a bit better than the recipe you were using?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>sure, taste really is a personal thing &#8211; I´ve found many southern dishes to contain too much fat and lard for me to like them &#8211; maybe I like it bland? <img src='http://www.amiexpat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )))) As for Asian cuisine, I prefer Japanese over Thai or Vietnamese &#8211; no offense intended.</p>
<p>Bottom line, I guess the recipe is simply &#8220;wrong&#8221;, or they´ve forgotten something. The trick with the Würzfleisch (&#8220;spiced meat&#8221;) is that the spices are added to both meat and sauce, and when the two are mixed, the flavors do so, too. The cheese &#8220;lid&#8221; is to prevent the stuff from becoming cold too fast, and to preserve it in case you want to re-heat the meal. I´ve never eaten this dish without the meat being mixed with sauce, goulash-style.</p>
<p>I cook my northern dishes by heart rather than with recipes, but if you like, next time I make Würzfleisch, I´ll take notes and mail you what I did. Maybe that´ll taste a bit better than the recipe you were using?</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Geyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Geyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tom: If you click the link at the beginning of the post, you can check out the recipe for yourself.  No thick sauce or cheese.  I think a thick sauce would have helped for sure, it seemed a little dry.  The recipe does mention the earthen bowls though.  I&#039;ve visited Lübeck and lived in Berlin, Rostock, and Potsdam for 5 years, so I have had plenty of opportunities to try the regional cuisine up north.  Taste is a personal thing.  I&#039;m half-Thai and eat things most Germans would struggle with or consider too spicy to be edible.  It&#039;s just a matter of preference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tom: If you click the link at the beginning of the post, you can check out the recipe for yourself.  No thick sauce or cheese.  I think a thick sauce would have helped for sure, it seemed a little dry.  The recipe does mention the earthen bowls though.  I&#8217;ve visited Lübeck and lived in Berlin, Rostock, and Potsdam for 5 years, so I have had plenty of opportunities to try the regional cuisine up north.  Taste is a personal thing.  I&#8217;m half-Thai and eat things most Germans would struggle with or consider too spicy to be edible.  It&#8217;s just a matter of preference.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please overread the word &quot;either&quot; in my last post; it somehow snuck in there...

Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please overread the word &#8220;either&#8221; in my last post; it somehow snuck in there&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

being from Schleswig-Holstein, I guess you forgot two things (or, maybe the recipe didn´t mention it). The first is a thick, rich sauce. Usually, you eat Würzfleisch either from little earthen bowls, like 8cm in diameter and 3-4 cm high, and you place your meal inside (one serving), add sauce until the bowl is nearly full, cover it with grated cheese (ingredient #2 not mentioned ;-)  ) and place it in the oven until the cheese is molten. Use spicy cheese like Emmentaler or Havarti to add some flavor. You can also substitute the mushrooms with little diced potatos if you like, and use a sauce that contains mushrooms.

Northern cuisine is not bland. Once you´ve tried a real (!) Würzfleisch, Bauernfrühstück, or (my favorite dish) Finkenwerder Scholle, and you know what it´s supposed to taste like, i guess you´ll love it as well.

Steer clear of a dish called &quot;Swattsuur&quot; though. Just some advice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>being from Schleswig-Holstein, I guess you forgot two things (or, maybe the recipe didn´t mention it). The first is a thick, rich sauce. Usually, you eat Würzfleisch either from little earthen bowls, like 8cm in diameter and 3-4 cm high, and you place your meal inside (one serving), add sauce until the bowl is nearly full, cover it with grated cheese (ingredient #2 not mentioned <img src='http://www.amiexpat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   ) and place it in the oven until the cheese is molten. Use spicy cheese like Emmentaler or Havarti to add some flavor. You can also substitute the mushrooms with little diced potatos if you like, and use a sauce that contains mushrooms.</p>
<p>Northern cuisine is not bland. Once you´ve tried a real (!) Würzfleisch, Bauernfrühstück, or (my favorite dish) Finkenwerder Scholle, and you know what it´s supposed to taste like, i guess you´ll love it as well.</p>
<p>Steer clear of a dish called &#8220;Swattsuur&#8221; though. Just some advice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Geyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Geyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stephanie: Yeah, I like your idea of the garlic salt.  Maybe some fresh garlic in the pan with the mushrooms would help.

@kelsey: That would be great if you joined in!

@rhona: I found German food pretty bland until I moved to Bavaria.  I think maybe I just find north German cuisine bland.  South German cuisine is pretty darn tasty.  I think this is only the first or second recipe that I haven&#039;t really enjoyed so far out of this book.

@dave: Yeah, I was surprised about the lack of Kaiserschmarrn, maybe the authors consider it more of an Austrian recipe (?), but it&#039;s certainly popular here. We haven&#039;t gotten to Kartoffelschmarrn yet, but let me know if you want the recipe posted and I can do that.

@rita: I was thinking of getting Steinpilz for the rabbit dish.  They were selling them in downtown Regensburg last time I was there.  Good luck getting a rabbit.  Not sure how available they are in the smaller city center markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stephanie: Yeah, I like your idea of the garlic salt.  Maybe some fresh garlic in the pan with the mushrooms would help.</p>
<p>@kelsey: That would be great if you joined in!</p>
<p>@rhona: I found German food pretty bland until I moved to Bavaria.  I think maybe I just find north German cuisine bland.  South German cuisine is pretty darn tasty.  I think this is only the first or second recipe that I haven&#8217;t really enjoyed so far out of this book.</p>
<p>@dave: Yeah, I was surprised about the lack of Kaiserschmarrn, maybe the authors consider it more of an Austrian recipe (?), but it&#8217;s certainly popular here. We haven&#8217;t gotten to Kartoffelschmarrn yet, but let me know if you want the recipe posted and I can do that.</p>
<p>@rita: I was thinking of getting Steinpilz for the rabbit dish.  They were selling them in downtown Regensburg last time I was there.  Good luck getting a rabbit.  Not sure how available they are in the smaller city center markets.</p>
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		<title>By: rita</title>
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		<dc:creator>rita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a friend and i just went hunting for mushrooms last weekend and, as usual, we noticed a great difference with the different types. the Steinpilze were simply divine in tase, but with the other mushrooms (fried in a pan), we had to use a large amount of spices.
if i can get hold of rabbit, count me in for the next challenge!!!
.-= rita&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://rita.1on.de/archives/1764-not-the-colours-of-autumn.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;not the colours of autumn&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a friend and i just went hunting for mushrooms last weekend and, as usual, we noticed a great difference with the different types. the Steinpilze were simply divine in tase, but with the other mushrooms (fried in a pan), we had to use a large amount of spices.<br />
if i can get hold of rabbit, count me in for the next challenge!!!<br />
.-= rita&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://rita.1on.de/archives/1764-not-the-colours-of-autumn.html" rel="nofollow">not the colours of autumn</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked here at Amiexpat for a recipe for Kaiserschmarrn, because I wanted to send a recipe to some US friends... and found it&#039;s not even on the &quot;official&quot; German list.  But Kartoffelschmarrn is!  I&#039;m curious how it compares the the normal Schmarrn you find everywhere in Bayern and Österreich.  Maybe I&#039;ll find time to try it.
.-= Dave&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DavesPhotoTravelblogue/~3/Z6eMHymz_88/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sightseeing in Washington, DC&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked here at Amiexpat for a recipe for Kaiserschmarrn, because I wanted to send a recipe to some US friends&#8230; and found it&#8217;s not even on the &#8220;official&#8221; German list.  But Kartoffelschmarrn is!  I&#8217;m curious how it compares the the normal Schmarrn you find everywhere in Bayern and Österreich.  Maybe I&#8217;ll find time to try it.<br />
.-= Dave&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DavesPhotoTravelblogue/~3/Z6eMHymz_88/" rel="nofollow">Sightseeing in Washington, DC</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good although I am not surprised about the blandness. I find a lot of German food very basic but still tasty.
YUMMM!! Dumpfnudel is fantastic! I can&#039;t wait for your reaction on this Southern dish.
.-= Rhona&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://251319.blogspot.com/2009/10/birthday-2009-gift-tba.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Birthday 2009 gift - TBA&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good although I am not surprised about the blandness. I find a lot of German food very basic but still tasty.<br />
YUMMM!! Dumpfnudel is fantastic! I can&#8217;t wait for your reaction on this Southern dish.<br />
.-= Rhona&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://251319.blogspot.com/2009/10/birthday-2009-gift-tba.html" rel="nofollow">Birthday 2009 gift &#8211; TBA</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might do the rabbit version.  I love those tasty bunnies.

If I try it, I&#039;ll let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might do the rabbit version.  I love those tasty bunnies.</p>
<p>If I try it, I&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the blandness of this recipe - just seemed like it needed one more ingredient to make it stand out!  Your dish looks very nice with the chanterelle mushrooms!
.-= Stephanie&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://agreenvillelife.blogspot.com/2009/10/wurzfleisch-mit-pilzem-pork-ragout-with.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Würzfleisch mit Pilzem (Pork ragout with mushrooms)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the blandness of this recipe &#8211; just seemed like it needed one more ingredient to make it stand out!  Your dish looks very nice with the chanterelle mushrooms!<br />
.-= Stephanie&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://agreenvillelife.blogspot.com/2009/10/wurzfleisch-mit-pilzem-pork-ragout-with.html" rel="nofollow">Würzfleisch mit Pilzem (Pork ragout with mushrooms)</a> =-.</p>
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